@Inproceedings{EPTCS390.12, author = {Grochow, Joshua A. and Levet, Michael}, year = {2023}, title = {On the Descriptive Complexity of Groups without Abelian Normal Subgroups (Extended Abstract)}, editor = {Achilleos, Antonis and Della Monica, Dario}, booktitle = {{\rm Proceedings of the Fourteenth International Symposium on} Games, Automata, Logics, and Formal Verification, {\rm Udine, Italy, 18-20th September 2023}}, series = {Electronic Proceedings in Theoretical Computer Science}, volume = {390}, publisher = {Open Publishing Association}, pages = {185-202}, doi = {10.4204/EPTCS.390.12}, }